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Popular Eastlake garden in trouble with the city, may have to be trimmed
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Cascade P-Patch
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Check out the solution at Thomas St and Minor Ave N for the Casacade P-Patch--someone (the city?) built a large sidewalk bulb out so that traffic has to slow down to turn, and has better line-of-sight.
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Comment by
joshuadf
July 24, 2010
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It's in the parking strip
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the parking strips are owned by the City. Residents are obliged to maintain them. She's really got no leg to stand on. I just think it sucks some asshat turned her in. There's a lot worse corners for visibility in this city that are created by the City's refusal to enforce the most basic of parking regs.
Just leave the woman alone and let her cultivate some beauty in the world. sheesh! |
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seattle
July 24, 2010
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Zoning inspector meeting unnecessary
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"Hansen... will be meeting with the zoning inspector who sent her the warning letter on Wednesday to find out what exactly she has to do to be in compliance."
She shouldn't waste the time of the zoning inspector (paid by taxpayers). The letter (dated July 16) sent by the zoning inspector makes it clear what she needs to do to comply with the zoning code. The additional comments by the zoning inspector in the letter seem inappropriate, but that doesn't change her responsibility to comply with the zoning code. |
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John Smith
July 24, 2010
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Small minds
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I would walk into the next City Council meeting with about 300 formal complaints (in writing) of bushes/plants taller than 24" in the City right of way. Just drive around and jot down EVERY violation within a 5 mile radius.
Then sue the city for harassment and not uniformly enforcing the code. Frankly I'm pissed the City is wasting my tax dollars on something so stupid. ONE complaint. How about the rights of the other 100 or 1000 people who like it there??? What about their rights? Perhaps the zealots at the City should find something better to do like deal with the drug and gang problems, the budgets, and the condition of the roads and parks for starters... |
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Steve
July 24, 2010
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The Solution
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Thinking on this further,
She should buy several gallons of Round Up and turn it into nothing but parched dirt. It will "enhance" the neighborhood per the intent of the City code, and be fully compliant. Hopefully the asshat who complained will slip and fall in the mud and break a hip. Bewildering how small the minds of some people are. It's also frustrating that ONE complainer has the power to wreck what so many people enjoy and the City staff are DUMB enough to allow it. Steve |
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Steve
July 24, 2010
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RE: Small minds
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Steve,
The problem/hazard is violating the 24" height limit within 30 feet of an intersection. The information is in the article. |
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John Smith
July 24, 2010
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RE: RE: Small minds
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Cars taller than 24" high routinely park within 30 feet on an intersection and block sight lines. No violations thee??? No tickets or tows either???
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Comment by
bobbyA
July 26, 2010
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City Vegetation Codes
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I wish the city would send their code enforcers out for some exercise. Any decent walk around the neighborhoods would have them writing letters all day long. I have yet to EVER take a walk with a friend where one of us (usually me at 6' tall) has to take a dive to avoid the encroaching brush from someone's yard.
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Comment by
Not the last word
July 25, 2010
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City Property
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I like the fact that people can do what they want to do to their own property. Having a beautiful garden is a plus.
When using city property there are rules we need to comply with; lesson learned. The garden is beautiful, buy you have to admit the garden is very dense and does impair viewing of cars/motorcycles coming from the west. Solution: Trim the plants or plant lower growing plants and move on. |
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Comment by
ellen
July 25, 2010
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Much ado about nothing
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I pedaled by this place today and was really surprised that any sort of complaint was made. A parked car near the yield sign would create more of a visual block. The flowers on the north parking strip are not a visual hindrance at all.
Could it be that the complainer has some type of agenda with Mary Hansen? Perhaps changing it to a 4-way stop would be the BEST solution. It would give more people time to stop and smell the roses, literally! |
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profstack
July 25, 2010
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automobile trumps community, pedestrians yet again
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i love this corner and the sight-lines aren't really that bad. it is a cool place to walk by in the neighbourhood and makes Lynn street that much more interesting between Eastlake Ave and the street end park.
hope Mary wins this thing, not for her benefit but or the community in general. i'm going down to sing her sheets tomorrow. so ridiculous. |
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striatic
July 25, 2010
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Zoning is in place for a reason
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This is pretty straight forward.
1. There are zoning rules designed for the safety of drivers, bikers and pedestrians. 2. Someone complained that there might be a violation. 3. The city did their job and investigated. The visibility issue is real and there have been lawsuits in Western Washington when accidents happen and corner visibility is a possible cause. Usually the city and taxpayers lose when these lawsuits occur regardless of the final outcome. So she should just comply with the city and lower her vegetation on city land. |
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yaler
July 25, 2010
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Mary makes the neighborhood beautiful!
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I was Mary's neighbor down on Fairview at her former house... she puts so much work into her yard, and maintains everything beautifully. In this new house, she took what was destined to be a little postage stamp piece of grass and made an amazing garden the entire community can enjoy. I really hope the spirit isn't lost in the letter here.
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Cindy
July 26, 2010
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Mary's garden is in violation - she needs to follow the rules
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The fact is, this is in violation of city code. If there was ever an automobile accident at this location, Mary would probably use every excuse in the book to indicate that the garden was not the reason behind the accident. Knowing that she is so self evasive about her garden and that public safety is of little importance to her, I wouldn't want to be anywhere near her or her monstrosity of a garden. She lives in a city. We all must comply with the rules. God forbid how she could live with hersulf if a death was caused by this ridiculous obstruction. This lady needs to tone it down, rather than gripe and act like a crybaby.
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Paul
July 26, 2010
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teachable moment
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With all her skill and eye, seems to me that Mary H could create one heck of a year-round, code-complaint garden and encourage other corner lot people to do the same. As a walker and a tree planter, I totally appreciate good sight lines at corners - and elsewhere - and understand the 2-foot height restriction for 30 feet. It takes some doing to either grow small plants up to 2 feet or keep larger ones pruned. I have a yardstick planted as a reminder (hers would need to be 2 feet of a yard stick . . .). Limbed-up trees (to at least the required 8 feet) and tended overhanging greenery is also mush appreciated by us walk-abouts. Also, planting strip trees require a permit -free- from the City Arborist's Office (SDOT) and help that in-the-wires and other problems don't develop over time. These guidelines were revisited recently.
Nancy M It's a Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood Tree Planting Project PS It would be great if people would voluntarily not park vehicles near corners . . . |
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Nancy Merrill
July 27, 2010
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Garden
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Regardless of who's right or wrong or somewhere in between- I'm astonished at some of the comments on here.
It's very easy to hide behind a computer screen and hit "send". Anonymously. I wonder if people would have the courage to say some of the things written on here, directly to Mary? If any of you are ever in a similar situation I hope you're shown the same level (or lack) of courtesy and honesty you've shown your fellow neighbor. |
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Kate Dulemba
July 28, 2010
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RE: Garden
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Kate, firstly, welcome to internet comment boards; for further examples see the comments on Seattle Times articles.
Second, this is what I would say to Mary: Your garden is beautiful, no one is going to debate that. Also, I understand that you think it is unfair. However, we live in a city that is governed by laws. When you chose to plant on the city's property you have to follow their rules, plain and simple. Everyone has to follow the same laws, you are not a special case. Also, this law exists for a good reason, public safety. I think all cars and bikes should have their legally allowed viewing area so that the intersection (that I drive through regularly) will continue to be safe. Also, I wouldn't want anyone to get in an accident there and then have the right to sue you for an illegal obstruction. For your benefit and mine please comply with the law. |
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Mark Aurelius
July 28, 2010
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Amazing to see people defend stupid and unequally enforced laws
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I can't believe how many people here are defending the city. Yep, stroll around any Seattle neighborhood and you'll find lots of similar situations. Get a life, people.
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Casper
July 29, 2010
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RE: Amazing to see people defend stupid and unequally enforced laws
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So if someone complains that I have my stereo too loud, and it is, should I argue that there are plenty of people around Seattle playing their music too loud? So then, I should not have to abide by the law?
No, there are zoning rules in place for a reason. If you know of other corners that have plantings that are obtructing the ability to see cars, cyclist, and/or pedestrians, you might want to call and report these so we keep people safe, as well as help the city avoid any costly lawsuits. |
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July 29, 2010
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